This back-issue comment section is a great idea and a great addition.
~SBW
regarding Okie's story
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Here is more on our Great Uncle Robt [more]...
~NW Okie
regarding Okie's story
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Duchess & Sadie's Domain
Bayfield, Colorado - [The photo on the left was taken the evening before (Friday, 18 March 2011) and he photo on the right was taken Saturday, 19 March 2011, by photographer, Robert L. Wagner, Alva, Oklahoma. Great shot, Rob!]
On March 19, 2011 were you ready for the "Supermoon?" Did you view the "Super Moon?" How about that huge, bright "Super Moon" Saturday evening?
They say the "Supermoon" only happens every 18 years. They say it will appear 14% wider and 30% brighter at a mere distance of 221,567 miles away from Earth.
It was too socked in with clouds here in Southwest Colorado at Vallecito to get a good view. BUT . . . We did a Google search for online photos. You can view it at the following (one photographer used the following settings on his camera (F-stop of 5.6 and and ISO of 400):
* Wes2theGO9's Flickr site.
* Supermoon 2011 @ The Jersey Journal
* Supermoon 2011 @ POPSCI (Popular Science)
* Supermoon 2011 @ Capital Weather Gang (Washington Post)
New Freedom Chamber of Commerce
We hear the Freedom Chamber of Commerce has a new President, DeWana Leonard. DeWana says, "I just wanted to tell you about a few of the changes we have this year that I hope will improve the rodeo and start to build it back to the previous attendance. My hope is also that this year is the beginning of Freedom having a premiere PRCA rodeo like they had a few years ago as an open rodeo."
DeWana goes on to say, "Change #1 - New announcer young up and coming announcer, Mr Creed Roberts. Change #2 - Hiring Leon Coffee, one of the greatest rodeo clown ever. We have to keep his calliber of excellence, we have had him before and was enjoyed by all. Change #3 - All new Rodeo Committee, they are young, energetic and have some great new thoughts and ideas. AND . . . the biggest Change #4 - Justin McBride, Oklahoma's own World Champion Bullrider, now Recording Artist, is putting on an outdoor
concert after the rodeo on Saturday night at the Rodeo Grounds."
DeWana Leonard would like to Thank you all for always supporting the Freedom Rodeo and Old Cowhand Reunion! They could probably use lots of NW Oklahoma and Freedom Volunteers, also! Contact (DeWana Leonard (mll022854@pldi.net) and see what you can to do to volunteer to help make Freedom Rodeo a "Premiere PRCA Rodeo!"
With the first day of Spring arriving this Sunday, March 20, 2011, did you catch any sitings of Spring flowers in your neck of the woods?
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This Day In History (March 21)
America - If Ty Cobb could get $4000 with an $800 bonus in 1908, I wonder what my Grandpa Bill McGill received when he signed with the St. Louis Browns in 1907. Need to check that out! Neither Ty Cobb nor Grandpa McGill received what baseball players get in present day! That I am sure of!
On this day in Baseball history, March 21st:
* 1908 - Tigers' outfielder Ty Cobb signs for $4000 with an $800 bonus if he hits over .300.
* 1936 - The Reds trade first baseman Jim Bottomley for the Browns' utility player Johnny Burnett
* 1957 - It is reported the owners will get 9.3 million dollars for the 1957 TV-Radio rights.
* 1959 - The Indians trade Larry Doby to the Tigers for Tito Francona. It turns out to be a great swap for the Tribe as their new outfielder will hit .363 - while Doby will only play in just 16 games for Detroit.
* 1962 - In a ceremony prior to the spring training game against New York in Clearwater, the Phillies honor the visiting Robin Roberts, who was sold to the Yankees in the off-season, by retiring his uniform number 36, the familiar numerals he wore for 14 season with Philadelphia. The future Hall of Fame right-hander starts the exhibition game against his former team, giving up four runs in three innings, and is credited with the win in the Bronx Bombers' 13-10. victory.
* 1966 - In a spring exhibition game in Houston's Astrodome, the Dodgers and Astros become the first major league teams to play on artificial grass. The material, which would become known as AstroTurf, was developed by Monsanto in an effort to overcome the team's inability to grow grass indoors.
* 1968 - The new Kansas City American League franchise selects Royals as the team name.
* 1975 - Georgia Tech blanks Earklham, 41-0, setting the NCAA mark for the largest margin of victory.
* 2002 - The Phillies make public the one-day regular-season suspension of Larry Bowa handed down by Major League Baseball vice president for on-field operations Bob Watson. The action was taken as a result of the Philadelphia's manager's "inappropriate conduct toward the umpire" when he became enraged with the home plate umpire over two close calls on checked swings during an exhibition game against the Indians on March 9.
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NW Okie's NEW NWOkie Webcam
Bayfield, Colorado - We have started using a NEW webcam software for our SW Colorado Cam. With EyeSpyFx MyWebcam App, on our Mac and iPad, we can hook it to our Logitech Pro 9000 webcam to view the archives (if we have the archives set to on). Right now the "archives" are turned-off. Here is a tinyurl link for NWOkie webcam.
We have also put a iframe link in The OkieLegacy Ezine below for viewing a photo of the webcam as we did with the other SW Colorado webcam earlier.
Yep! We are slowly melting up here in the SW Colorado Rockies! With temps in the mid-50's at Vallecito during the daylight hours. No Jonquils sprouting up here yet!
Good Night, and Good Luck!
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Throw 'er June Photo (7 May 1933)
Woodward, Oklahoma - In Vol. 6, Iss. 20, dated 15 May 2004, in The OkieLegacy Ezine, Larry Hardesty commented on Feature #1340 -- "I know of the June (actually Junia) and Eli Rentfro to which the poem (The Pie Supper) refers. They are relatives of relatives. If you want more information, contact me at Email: ebony51@frontiernet.net - It had to happen around 1905 or so."
Here is the Poem from that Vol. 6, Iss. 20, below:
THE PIE SUPPER . . .
You have heard the poem White has read on the joys of eating pies
But I want to tell you, brothers, it's all a pack of lies.
But we can't censor Mr. White, his very life's at stake
He's got to write it just that way although it is a fake.
Cause Mr. White is getting old, has almost lost his muscle
His wife can do the old man up in every single tussle.
We know that White would never read that poem in his youth
But now that he is getting old, he's got to stretch the truth.
Not one of us would come tonight to eat like some starved shoat
But nearly all of us are ruled by some blamed petticoat.
We had to come and buy the pies or the cools would all been mad
We have got to blow and say they're good if they are spoiled and bad
The pie I bought and tried to eat, I tell you it was some
It rolled up in a big tough wad just like a chew of gum.
I chewed with my old grinders till my jaws began to squeak
I'll belch it up and masticate it thoroughly next week.
The pie Sid Scovel got he thought was made of squash
But when he cut the thing in two, he had to laugh, by gosh.
The top was smeared all over with something just like soap
The inside of the doggoned thing was black as wagon dope.
The only one who made a kick was Mr. William Cavett,
The pie he bought they could take back, by ging, he wouldn't have it.
But when that little black-eyed wife of his came walking 'round,
Old Billy just drawed in his horns and calmly wilted down.
June Rentfro's wife had got a heart as hard as any stone
And poor old June's afraid to say that his life is his own.
He tried to make the cooks all think their supper was a treat
But the pie he got he says was scarcely fit to eat.
When Eli Rentfro ate his pie, he made an awful face
He acted just as though his jaw had been knocked out of place.
The blamed thing was so heavy, it made his stomach sag
And every time he belched it up, the poor boy had to gag.
If Mooney's not the last man here, I'll freely go to jail
You'll always find Al in the rear just like an old cow's tail.
He told me that his stomach was as fill as any tick
And that the pie he bought and ate he thought would make him sick.
Old Charley smiled and scratched his head and pulled his long mustache
He said the pie he ate he thought was made of hash.
And even White, who read that piece and the cooks blowed out of sight
He whispered in my ear just now, 'My stomach don't feel right'.
Ed Smith can eat most anything: his stomach's tough as a brick
There never was a thing on earth could make old Edwin sick.
He said no girl that lives on earth in wedlock would him catch
If that's the kind of cooks they are, I'll always have a batch.
I always said if I could call just twenty years back
I'd rustle round and get a wife whose eyes were plum coal black.
But when I look at Charlie Smith and his baldheaded pate
That's just as round and slick as the bottom of a plate,
By ging, I changed my mind and I believe it's true
Black eyes are worse for pulling hair than gals with eyes of blue.
Although the cooks can't bake a pie that's scarcely fit to eat,
Although they pull out all your hair and think it quite a treat,
Yet life would be a failure, this earth a desert drear,
The world to chaos would go back without her presence near.
She shares our sorrows and our joys, our burdens she makes lighter,
Our toil, our troubles and mistakes her winning smile makes brighter.
And, if she sometimes makes us dance to the tune of Yankee Doodle
I've got to say down in my heart, 'God bless the whole capoodle.' - (written by Alexander McFadden)
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Scottish Covenanters Index
Scotland - We were searching for some Scots in the Scottish Covenanters Index over at Ancestry.com when we find some DUNLOP's and MCGILL's listed in this index. Here is some information concerning the Scottish Covenanters Index, and what, how it came about.
Source Information - Drown, Isabelle McLean, comp.. Scottish Covenanters Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2003. Original data: See bibliography listed in Description.
About Scottish Covenanters Index
In the 17th century conflict arose between Church and State in Scotland. Those who remained steadfast in their Presbyterian beliefs and refused to take an oath to the King saying that he was the head of the church became known as Covenanters. They believed that Christ was the head of the church and were punished for this belief. Many were forced to pay the ultimate price for this by laying down their lives. The Royalists and Dragoons, who were seeking their lives, chased the Covenanters from glen to glen, especially in the Lowlands. If anyone was found hiding them, they suffered imprisonment and/or death as well. This punishment was not just reserved for the strong and healthy -- children and the elderly were subjected to the cruelty as well.
This database is an index, compiled by Isabelle Drown, to the Covenanters whose names are found in books recording their history between 1660 and 1690. The index provides the Covenanter's name, a birth or christening date, a birth or christening place, and a reference to the passage in which information on the individual is found. This reference includes book, volume, and page numbers. The book number indicates which book in the bibliography the information was taken from.
Two of the largest repositories of Covenanter books are Vancouver School of Theology in Vancouver, British Columbia, and University of Guelph in Guelph, Ontario. These are not the only repositories in which Covenanter books may be found.
You can check with your local libraries and use inter-library loan if they are not locally available to you. A glossary of Celtic place names and explanations of certain words and phrases used in the index are available from Isabelle. Questions and comments about this index may be e-mailed to Isabelle at the following address: CovenanterIndex@email.toast.net.
COVENANTER INDEX BIBLIOGRAPHY
1) THE MARTYR GRAVES OF SCOTLAND By J. H. Thomson, Published by Oliphant, Anderson & Ferrier. Edinburgh & London
2) MEN OF THE COVENANT By Alexander Smellie, Published by London: Andrew Melrose, 1911
3) SCOTS WORTHIES By John Howie of Lochguin, Published by McGregor, Pulson & Company, MDCCCXLVI
4) LADIES OF THE COVENANT, MEMOIRS By Rev. James Anderson
5) LIVES OF THE SCOTTISH COVENANTERS By W.R. McPhun, Published by Glasgow and London: 1862
6) SONS OF ADAM
7) MARTYRS, HEROES AND BARDS OF THE SCOTTISH CONVENANT By George Gilfillan
Publishers - Albert Cockshaw, 41 Ludgate Hill, 1853
8) A REGIMENTAL HISTORY OF THE COVENANTING ARMIES, Family History Library, Salt Lake City
9) THE MAKERS OF THE KIRK By Barnett
10) THE SCOTS PEERAGE - A HISTORY OF THE NOBLE FAMILIES OF SCOTLAND; VOLUME I, Published by T & A Constable, London - Simkin, Marshall, Hamilton, Kent & Co. Limited. Cambridge - MacMillan & Bowes Glasgow - James MacLenose & Sons
11) COVENANTERS FROM SCOTLAND TO NEW JERSEY BETWEEN 1683 - 1685 - ship passenger list for the Henry and Francis
12) A CLOUD OF WITNESSES, Illustrated editon by The Rev. John H. Thomson
Published - Johnstone, Hunter and Company - 1871, U.B.C., call number BX9082 C6
13) THE COVENANTERS OF AYRSHIRE: Historical and Biographical By Rev. R. Lawson, Published by J. and R. Parlane, Paisley - 1887
14) FAIR SUNSHINE By Jock Purves, Published by The Banner of Truth Trust - 1968 (The material in this volume consists of two works: Sweet Believing - 1948 and Fair Sunshine - 1957)
15) FATHERS OF THE KIRK By Ronald Selby Wright, Oxford University Press, 1960, Edited by Wright Manse of the Cannnongate, Edinburgh
U.B.C., call number BX9099 F38
16) MAKERS OF THE SCOTTISH CHURCH AT THE REFORM'TION By Kirkwood Hewat
Published by - McNiven and Wallace - 1920
17) LIGHT OF THE NORTH By Jay D. Douglas, Published : William B Eerdmans - 1964
18) SCOTTISH COVENANTERS - bibliography only By James Taylor, Published - Hodder and Stoughton, MDCCCXCIV
19) MINUTE BOOK KEPT BY THE WAR COMMITTEE OF THE COVENANTERS IN THE STEWARTRY OF KIRKCUDBRIGHT IN THE YEARS 1640 AND 1641, Published - F. Nicholson, MDCCCIV, Family History Library, LDS Church
20) REGISTER OF THE REVERAND JOHN MACMILLAN, Published - 1706 - 1751, (This is available on film at the Family History Library, LDS Church)
21) THE COVENANTERS By David Stevenson - The Covenanters: The National Covenant And Scotland, 1988 - Koerner Library - U.B.C., call number BX9081 578
22) THE SCOTTISH COVENANTERS 1660 - 88 By Ian B. Cowan, 1976, U.B.C. - Koerner Library, call number BX 9081 C68
23) REGISTER OF THE PRIVY COUNCIL OF SCOTLAND, Volumes for the years1661 - 1689, U.B.C., National Library of Scotland, Edinburgh
24) THE COVENANTERS By James King Hewison, Published Glasgow: John Smith and Son - 2 volumes, 1908, U.B.C. - Koerner Library, call number BX 9081 145
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Ireland, Ordnance Survey (1824-1846)
Ireland - Also . . . While I was searching for some Irish ancestors, I found this great Ireland Ordnance Survey map dated between 1824-1846.
Source Information - Ancestry.com. Ireland, Ordnance Survey, 1824 - 1846 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.
Original data:
Ordnance Survey Office, Phoenix Park (Dublin) under the direction of Lt. Larcom, R.E., by Sergeant West of the Royal Sappers and Miners. Ordnance Survey of Ireland, 1834-1845. Dublin, Ireland: For Her Majesty's Government by Hodges and Smith.
About Ireland, Ordnance Survey, 1824 - 1846
The detailed maps of Ireland that make up this database took 20 years to complete and offer an unparalleled look at 19th-century Ireland around the time of the Great Famine.
The English Parliament ordered Major Thomas Colby to Ireland in 1824 to undertake a survey of the country. His teams of surveyors would produce detailed maps on a six-inch = one-mile scale that would be used to determine land valuations for tax purposes. The maps were finally published in 1846. They cover almost the entire country and include details of the smallest civil division of the time: the townland.
This collection can be used in conjunction with several other databases on Ancestry.com, such as Ireland, Index to Griffith's Valuation, 1848-1864. Researchers who find ancestors in other Irish databases can often locate where they lived on the ordnance survey maps.
Map sheets 108-125 are missing from the collection. These sheets cover approximately 10 percent of County Galway, mainly in the south of the county.
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The New England Historical & Genealogical Register
New England - The New England Historical & Genealogical Register was published quarterly under the direction of the New England historic, Genealogical society. The editor was Rev. William Cogsell, D.D. The publisher was Samuel G. Drake, in 1847.
We all should remember of the landing of the Mayflower carrying its passengers, the Pilgrims, in 1620. Did you know that John Farmer (born12 June 1789, Chelmsford, Ms., eldest son of John Farmer andLydia Richardson, who married 24 January 1788.) was the most distinguished genealogist and antiquary this country?
John Farmer, the genealogist, grandfather was the son of Oliver Farmer, born 31 July 1728, the son of Edward, born at Ansley, Warwickshire, England, and emigrated to this country about the year 160, settling at Billerica, Ms.
Passengers of the May Flower in 1620
On page 47 of the book and page 59 of the Google digitized book, it begins a history of the passengers of the May Flower in 1620.
The May Flower not only brought over the first of the Leyden Pilgrims, but also, in the year 1629, with four other vessels, transported Mr. Higginson and his company to Salem; and in 1630, was one of the fleet which conveyed to New England Mr. Winthrop and the early settlers of the Massachusetts Colony.
There was a list of those who signed the compact at Cape Cod, taken from Governor Bradford's folio manuscript. It gave the number of persons in the family; who of the signers brought wives, and who died the first winter. We also know the names and dates of the deaths of sixteen who died the first season; how many died before the arrival of the Fortune, on 9 November 1621.
The Old Colony Records shows us to whom land was assigned in 1624; what families were extinct at the time; and the families were arranged according to the vessel in which they came with an acre granted to each individual. We also know how many were in each family.
Those who Signed Compact at Cape Cod, 11 November 1620 were:
John Carver, died in April, 1621. His wife died in May, 1621. His daughter, Elizabeth Carver married John Howland. Jasper, (the boy of Mr. Carver,) died Dec. 6, 1620. John Howland and three others of this family died before 1627.
William Bradford - His wife Dorothy drowned Dec. 7, 1620.
Edward Winslow 0 His wife, Elixabeth, died March 24, 1620 -1. Edward Winslow, Jr. and John Winslow were sons of Edward.
George Soule.
William Brewster and his wife and their son, Love Brewster; Wrestling Brewster, another son of William; Mrs. Lucretia Brewster, wife of Joanathan, the oldest son of Elder Brewster; William Brewster, son of Jonathan.
Isaac Allerton and his wife, Mary (Mary died Feb 25, 1620-1; Bartholomew Allerton, son of Isaace; Remember Allerton, daughter of Isaac, and wife of Elder Thomas Cushman; Sarah Allerton, daughter of Isaac, and also wife of Moses Maverick.
Miles Standish and his wife, Rose. Rose died January 29, 1620-1.
John Alden.
Samuel Fuller and his servant, William Bullen. died Nov. 6, 1620.
christopher Martin, died Jan. 8, 1620-1. His wife, died the first winter. Solomon Martin, his son, died Dec. 24, 1620. On other of this family died the first winter.
William Mullins, died Feb. 21, 1620-1. His wife died the first winter. Priscilla Mullins, daughter of William, and also wife of John Alden; two others of this family died the first winter.William White, died Feb. 21, 1620-1. His wife, afterwards wife of Governor Winslow; resolved White, son of William; William White, Jr., son of William; Edward Thompson, died Dec. 4, 1620.
Richard Warren.
Stephen Hopkins. His wife, Elizabeth; His daughter, Constance, wife of Nicholas Snow; Giles Hopkins, son of Stephen; Caleb Hopkins, son of Stephen; and Oceanus, son of Stephen, born at sea.
Edward Dotey.
Edward Leister.
Edward Tilley, died the first winter. His wife died the first winter; two others of this family died the first winter.
John Tilley, died the first winter; His wife, died the first winter; one other of this family died the first winter.
Francis Cooke and his younger son, John Cooke.
Thomas Rogers, died the first winter. His son Joseph Rogers came over with Thomas.
Thomas Tinker, died the first winter; his wife, died the first winter; one more of this family died the first winter.
John Ridgdale, died the first winter; his wife, died the first winter.
Edward Fuller, died the first winter; two others of this family died the first winter.
Francis Eaton and his wife; his wife died before 1627; they had a son, Samuel Eaton.
James Chilton, died Dec. 8, 1620; his wife, died the first winter; Mary Chilton, daughter of James and also wife of Joh Winslow, the brother of Edward.
John Crackston, died the first winter, and his son, John Crackston, Jr.
John Billington and his wife, Helen; Francis and John Billington, Jr., sons of John.
Moses Fletcher, died the first winter.
John Goodman.
Degory Priest, died Jan. 1, 1620-1.
Thomas Williams, died the first winter.
Gilbert Winslow, brother of Edward.
Edward Margeson, died the first winter.
Peter Brown.
Richard Britterige, died Dec. 21, 1620.
Richard Clark, died the first winter.
Richard Cardiner.
John Allerton, seaman, died the first winter.
Thomas English, seaman, died the first winter.
(Total equal to 101)
In the division of land in 1624, Henry Samson and Humilitie Cooper had land assigned them among those who came in the May Flower, and for this reason they have been generally believed to hav been among the passengers of that vessel.
Three of the wives of the signers were left in Europe; namely, Bridgett, wife of Dr. Samuel Fuller; Hester, wife of Francis Cooke; and Elizabeth, wife of Richard Warren. These wives afterwards came over in the "Ann," in 1623.
Five lost their wives and married again; namely, William Bradford, married widow Alice Southworth; Edward Winslow, married widow Susanna White; Isaac Allerton, married Fear Brewster and afterwards, Joanna; Miles Standish, married Barbara; and Francis Eaton, married Christian Penn.
Others were married for the first time; John Howland and Elizabeth Carver; George Soule and May; Love Brewster and Sarah Coller; John Alden and Priscilla Mullins; Resolved White and Judith Vassal' Giles Hopkins and Catherine Wheldon; Edward Dotey and Faith Clarke; John Cooke and Sarah Warren; Samuel EAton and Martha Billington. Several of the pilgrims had children born in New England, which can be seen in another article of the book.
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Oil Rig Fire Probable Strike by Lightening
Dacoma, Oklahoma - Did you hear, see or read about the oil rig fire that was about 1/2 mile northwest of Dacoma, Woods county, Oklahoma a few days ago? They are saying it could probably have been struck by a lightening storm in the area at the time.
- [The photos above were taken at a safe distance by photographer, Robert L. Wagner of Alva, Oklahoma.]
They say the Eagle Energy Production's oil rig fire that sustained considerable damage in a Saturday noon explosion at a rig owned by DanD's of Lamont, Oklahoma. At least a couple of workers were transported by ambulance to Share Medical Center.
The local reported, " . . . The rig had been shut down for more than two days after drillers hit a high- pressure gas pocket which triggered the blowout preventer and stopped the drilling equipment."
It continued on to state, "No official word on a cause for the fire.was ready by press time, but a heavy electrical storm was passing through Dacoma at the time the fire was reported"
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HOHL/HULL's & History of Alleghany County, VA
Virginia - According to A Centennial History of Alleghany County of Virginia, by Oren Frederic Morton (1857-1926), on page 206, there is mention of Peter Thomas HOHL, who married Susannah F(D)IEFFENBACK(H) in Lancaster county, Pennsylvania. It said that Susannah was the second wife of Peter Thomas HOHL and the mother of his fourteen children, but I have found differently in my research.
During the Revolution War, Peter Thomas HOHL changed his surname to HULL; moved to the Calfpasture of Virginia; and about 1763 to the Crabbottom area of Virginia.
It said there was a Peter HULL/HOHL that married Barbara Keith, and was a Captain in the Revolution War and sat in the State Legislature. I do not have a Barbara Keith in my records and not quite sure which "Peter HULL?HOHL she married.
It also mentioned other children of the pioneer were Adam, who married Esther Keister and had about ten children; William; George, who went to Greenbrier; David; John.
Another son called himself Peter HULL married a Linkenfelter, and lived in Rockbridge. This other Peter HULL had a son John, who settled in Highland county, Ohio, in 1811. A son of this John HULL was Dr. Albert Y. HULL, prominent in Iowa as an editor and abolitionist. While a member of the state legislature, he was the chief instrumentally in moving the capitol to Des Moines, where he and his father owned some land.
J. A. T. HULL, a son of Dr. HULL, was a Congressman from Iowa, and for nearly twenty years was chairman of the committee on Military affairs. John A. HULL, son of this Congressman, received the distinguished service medal in the World War for his work in the Judge advocates's department.
Henry, son of the second Peter, was born February 6, 1780, purchased the Matthew Patton farm in Pendleton, and married Hannah Harness. His children were: William (born 1803) married Irene Scott; John H. (born 1804) married Sally Lackey; Joseph (born 1806), single; Sarah C. (born 1808) married Jacob Palzell; Laban (born 1810) married Martha Tucker and went to Missouri; Eliza A. (born 1811), single; Jemima C. (born 1813), single; Rebecca A. (born 1816), single; and so on to page 207.
Like I said earlier, I do not have all the HULL's listed here with their wives and immediate families. Perhaps some of this information will ring a bell with someone out there.
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