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Looking Back ... 40 Years Ago Today

What were you doing 40 years ago today, July 20, 1969, Sunday? Were you one of 500 million people that were seated in front of a television set, mesmerized by the continuous television coverage of the lunar module's descent toward the moon's cratered surface?

To many of those 500 million TV viewers the idea of a landing on the moon an almost unimaginable. Though, we were also intrigued with a television series that was also on television in 1969, "Star Trek."

This NW Okie was 21 years-old, single, junior college student attending Summer school at Northwestern State College, in Alva, Oklahoma and planning a wedding to be united in marriage ten days later (July 30th, 1969), was one of many glued to a television set at my friend Judy and her husband's house on the Eastside of Enid, Oklahoma, the evening of July 20, 1969 with my fiance.

Let us go back to the Apollo 11 Saturn V space vehicle as it lifted off at the Kennedy Space Center, Florida on July 16, 1969. It would be four days later when a scheduled moon landing created "One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind" was made by a Apollo 11 crew, Neil A. Armstrong, civilian aeronautical engineer from Ohio, as Edwin E. “Buzz” Aldrin Jr., Air Force test pilot from New Jersey, watched from the Lunar Module. Overhead in the Apollo 11 space craft, Michael Collins, another Air Force test pilot reared in a military household and spent time living in Oklahoma, was circling the moon.

This was also a time when the Space lift offs got continuous live coverage of CBS, NBC, and ABC. and everyone was gathered around their TV sets (black & white) and radios to watch and listen as Astronauts Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr. were preparing for their lunar landing on the moon surface.

As events unfolded in space, Oklahoma Astronaut Thomas P. Stafford, a Weatherford, Oklahoma native and part of the Apollo 10 crew with Eugene Cernan, stood in Mission Control and explained each move made by the astronauts in meticulous detail to others.

At the precise moon landing, Astronaut Armstrong announced at 3:10p.m., July 20, 1969, "Houston, Tranquility Base here. The Eagle has landed." When Armstrong landed, he only had 17 seconds of fuel left. They were that close from aborting the mission that day.

Six hours and 40 minutes elapsed between the lunar module landing and Armstrong's appearance on the lunar module ladder. The fuzzy, black and white images were telecast worldwide via a camera mounted on the outside of the spacecraft.

On that day in Summer of '69, the streets were virtually empty in cities like Enid, Oklahoma City, Lawton and Tulsa. Theaters entertained a few stragglers. Gas station attendants sat around transistor radios. Telephone lines were silent as viewers gathered around to view and listen at 9:56 p.m., as Astronaut Armstrong lowered his bulky boot onto the moon’s chalky surface and uttered his first words: “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

On that July day back in the Summer of '69 many viewers jotted down in their journals, “TODAY, JULY 20, 1969 — AT 3:14 P.M. THE LM, LUNAR MODULE LANDED ON THE MOON. NEIL ARMSTRONG WAS THE FIRST MAN OF THE U.S. TO WALK ON A FOREIGN PLANET!”

What did you jot down in your journals on that Summer day, July 20th, 1969? Where did you watch and listen?

As our imaginations unfurled, we watched something great and gained a great deal. Did we also lose something in the process? Did we forever lose the mysteries of the moon?

NO! In this NW Okie's mind, there are still mysteries to seek and great things to accomplish as our creative minds are unleashed into outer space.

You might have heard Walter Cronkite memorable closing newsline at the end of the Moon landing story, "That's the way it was!"
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Apollo 11 - 40th Anniversary

Man walks on the moon for the first time July, 1969 as U.S. Astronaut Neil A. Armstrong steps out of the lunar module from Apollo 11 and is joined by his companion Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin, Jr.

Armstrong is watched by much of the world, but millions of Americans believed the moon walk was staged in a studio to divert attention from the Vietnam War and many millions more demanded that money and technology be applied to more socially productive purposes.

First Moon Landing 1969


NASA's restored video of Armstrong and Aldrin raising the American flag on the moon.

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Looking Back ... That's The Way It Was

Remember this quote that a CBS news anchorman used to sign-off with, "That’s the way it is?"

Walter Cronkite was the voice of news that no one has been able to duplicate. A trusted and honored news man, Cronkite was born in 1916, the same era of my mother, Vada Paris (November 11, 1916), and Uncle Bob McGill (August 23, 1916).

Cronkite was the news anchor for whom the term "anchorman" was born. Walter Cronkite (November 4, 1916 - July 17, 2009) dominated the television news industry during one of the most volatile periods of American history. He broke the news of the Kennedy assassination, reported extensively on Vietnam and Civil Rights and Watergate, and seemed to be the very embodiment of TV journalism. They say, "Cronkite set the standard by which all others have been judged."

Walter Leland Cronkite was born in St. Joseph, Missouri on November 4, 1916, the only child of a dentist father and homemaker mother. When he was still young, his family moved to Texas. One day, he read an article in "Boys Life" magazine about the adventures of reporters working around the world. Young Cronkite was hooked. He began working on his high school newspaper and yearbook.

In 1933, he entered the University of Texas at Austin to study political science, economic and journalism. He never graduated. He took a part time job at the Houston Post, left college to do what he loved: report.

That's the way it was!
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1905, January - Russia Revolution

A Russian revolution had begun after a peaceful workers' demonstration led by a priest was machine-gunned January 9, 1905 in front of the Winter Palace at St. Petersburg on orders from the czar. News if "Bloody Sunday" incites the nation, the Grand Duke Serge is murdered February 4, 1905 by revolutionary terrorists at Moscow, and peasants seize land, crops, and livestock from landlords. View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

1916 - Einstein, WWI, Etc...

The general theory of relativity announced by Albert Einstein revolutionized the science of physics. At the University of Berlin and a director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, Einstein had evolved the theory from his work in the geometrization of physics and the integration of gravitational, accelerational, and magnetic phenomena which he would unite into a unified field theory represented by a single set of equations.

1916 was also the year that the World WAr in Europe took a heavy toll; the United States remained neutral while chasing Mexican bandit Pancho Villa; the Irish rose against the British in a great Easter rebellion; and the Arb revolt against the Turks began in the Hejaz.

The British ship hospital s. S. Britannic sinks in 50 minutes, Novembe 21 after hitting a mine en route to pick up 3,500 wounded from the Aegean island of Lemnos for transfer to Naples. The ship had 1,136 aboard and 30 were killed, most of them by the Britannic's own propellers.

Pancho Villa raided Columbus, New Mexico, March 9, killing 17 Americans, and a U. S. punitive expedition had moved into Mexico March 15 under thecommand of Genreal John J. Pershing, 55. Pershing had orders to "capture Villa dead or alive." General Pershing was unable to capture Pancho Villa and would withdraw in early February of next year (1906).
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Insight Into Grandma & John C. McClure

This week we find ourselves looking back to March, 1905, with four more letters from John C. McClure, of Altona, Illinois, and sent to Miss Constance Warwick of Alva, Oklahoma Territory.

We find out this week that the first part of March, 1905, John is still in Altona, Illinois, but on the Wednesday before March 31st, Saturday, 1905 John C. McClure showed up in Alva, Oklahoma Territory, allegedly working at The First National Bank of Alva, Oklahoma and taken care of business at his farm near Alva.

March 2, 1905, postmarked Altona, Ill., 4 p.m. -- "Mar. 2, 1905, 5:00 a.m., Miss Constance Warwick, Alva, Okla., Dear Friend, You may think that 5 o'clock in the morning is a pretty time to be writing a letter, but you know the early bird always gets the worm. Well, I'm not after the worm or the worms class, but am just going to answer your esteemed letter of recent date.

"I am setting up with a boy, who has influenza of the Heart. He is at his sweethearts home. Was spending sunday eve here, when he had an attack. They thought he was dead for a long time. This has been his second attack of heart failure. He is liable to have an attack most any time and if he were alone, he would surely go. Blessed are the pure in Heart.

"I do hope you are over the fever. Don't you think it is heart failure instead?

"We are having mud about a foot deep now. Snow is nearly all gone. There is going to be an excursion from here next Tues. $15.00 for round trip. Nellie's father is going. I told the folks I was going too. They think I am.

"You spoke again about a picture. I never believed you wanted one before, but I will change my mind now. I would have had one taken some time ago, but was waiting, thinking perhaps I might improve my face, and then we have no good photographers around here. But you shall have one (if you are a good girl).

"I will close as the roosters are crowing. Hopeing to hear from you next time the mail man comes. I am a mourning star, John C. McClure. Excuse lead pencil because I am not at home. Bye Bye Bye Bye."

March 13, 1905, postmarked Altona, Ill., 4 p.m. -- "Altona, Ill., Mar. 12, 1905, Miss Constance Warwick, Alva, Okla., Dear Friend, I received your esteemed letter yesterday. It might do for a cousin to order the style of paper, but you know better than I, it would be my finish. Any old paper would be graciously received by me. I know you think I'm a fool.

"We have not had any rain this Spring, and not nearly as much mud as we generally have. There are still some snow drifts along the fences.

"Your County Superintendent must have an eye for business, for if I remember correctly that lot of School moms were individually pretty good looking.

"I believe you are building air castles again. Resigning your school, working in an insurance office, visiting in California, seeing the sights in Portland, Going to Texas and latter but not least finishing a combine course in three months.

"We had an anniversary at our house last Friday. It was the 25th anniversary of mother's and father's marriage. Of course, the best part was the dinner.

"I have a chance to take a position as "order and bill clerk" in a factory, but I don't know whether I will take it, or got to Chicago. If I got to the white city, I will go the latter part of the week.

"I have started to build air castles for this summer. First, I'm going to Alva if I'm wanted. If I'm not, well then I'm going to Portland, stopping at points between here and there. I'm liable to got to Texas. Ha.

"Mr. Peters, Nellie's hub. said wheat was awful poor especially ours. Will you go over and look it over. Nit!

"That boy that had heart trouble is alright now. I guess he has got it all the time.

"I'm going to send you a model Love letter that was given me in Quincy. I happen to have it here in my pocket just now, is the reason I thought of it. You may use it, but not on me. Ever Your Friend, J. C. McClure.

"I won't write anything you can't read, so here is the shorthand. Write soon, and oblige, Your truly." [then John writes Constance's name in shorthand with the following:] "P.S. Ask that other known man if I have written lately to Nellie. John McClure."

March 31, 1905, Alva, Okla. -- There were two letters written at this March 31, 1905 date. The first letter was written on "The First National Bank" of Alva, Oklahoma, stationary and addressed to Miss Warwick, Alva, Okla., with no postage stamp or postmark on envelope.

The First National Bank of Alva, Oklahoma stationary at the upper-left corner had the following information: "The First National Bank of Alva, Oklahoma. J. A. Stine, President, Geo. W. Crowell, Vice Pres., G. E. Nickel, cashier, Frank G. Munson, asst. cashier.

It began, "Miss Constance Warwick, Alva, Okla., Dear Friend, You will be perhaps be surprised to get a letter from me Postmarked at Alva. I came to Alva last Wed., and am in the First National Bank here. I was out to the farm one day, and have been very busy ever since, so have not had a chance to see anybody. I would like very much to come out and see you if you would care to have me. Hoping I may hear from you, I remain Your Friend."

An additional short note was sent in another envelope with a 2-cent stamped envelope with no postmarked visible, to Miss Constance Warwick, RFD, Alva, Okla.

It began, "Alva, Okla., Sun., Miss Constance Warwick, Last eve I wrote you a letter, which I suppose you will get, but in my hurry to put it in the mail with the bank's mail, did not sign my name, so I guess I had better tell you who I am. Wishing to hear from you, I am J. C. McClure, Box 133."
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Indian Guinn's From Oklahoma/Arkansas

I have heard from someone (Andy Quinn - andyguinn@yahoo.com) earlier this week looking for more information on something that we posted in our Oakie Heart to Heart newsletter about 9 years ago in Vol. 2, entitled "The Crooked Bridge Story."

This is what one of our readers submitted some seven years ago. I don't have a name or email address of the person who submitted and thought maybe by chance that someone might remember the following and still be out there.

"Mailbag" submission from Vol. 2: "I love hearing about Oklahoma from you so much that I am trying to figure out how I can work it into my schedule to visit. Oklahoma that is--and you too, but I won't just "drop by". :) A coworker had to come out there last fall while I was on medical leave. He helps to approve day care centers and he was in the Indian Day Care Centers in your area. I was so jealous of him, but he brought me back some souvenirs of his trip. He KNOWS I am passionate about my Indian roots. If you know of any Indian Guinn's that might would be willing to help share some history it would sure be appreciated. Love your newsletter--Keep it coming! Today I attended the Carlisle 2000 Powwow to honor the Carlisle Indian Students. I got to meet Scott Momaday and got his autograph. Jim Thorpe's daughter was there also, but unfortunately I did not get to meet her. It rained all day, but was worth the trip." View/Write Comments (count 0)   |   Receive updates (0 subscribers)  |   Unsubscribe

Grandma's Lye Soap

Last weeks newsletter we shared a mp3 file of of Johnny Standley's record entitled, "It's In the Book, Part I & II." This week we would like to share a bit of information and the words to the song about "Grandma's Lye Soap."

Homemade lye soap is/was an Appalachian tradition, with its historical use including the elimination of head and body lice, bed bugs, mites, as well as general household and floor cleaning.

There was a time when a Lye Soap recipe provided the only source of basic hygiene available. Lye soap was generally made once a year, coinciding with Autumn Harvest and the killing of hogs in preparation for Winter. Here is link to view more information concerning Grandma's Lye Soap.

The words to "Grandma's Lye Soap" written by Johnny Standley and Art Thorsen go something like this:

Do you remember Grandma's Lye Soap,
Good for everything in the home,
And the secret was in the scrubbing,
It wouldn't suds, and wouldn't foam,
Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!)
For Grandma's Lye Soap,
Sing it out, all over the place!
For pots and pans, and dirty dishes,
And for your hands,
And for your face!
Little Therman, and Brother Herman,
Had an aversion to washing their ears...
Grandma scrubbed them with her lye soap,
And they haven't heard a word in years!
Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!)
For Grandma's Lye Soap,
Sing it out, all over the place!
For pots and pans, and dirty dishes,
And for your hands,
And for your face!
Mrs. O'Malley, out in the valley,
Suffered from ulcers, I understand,
She swallowed a cake of Grandma's Lye Soap,
Has the cleanest ulcers in the land!
Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!)
For Grandma's Lye Soap,
Sing it out, all over the place!
For pots and pans, and dirty dishes,
And for your hands,
And for your face!

Alternate Verse:

Mrs. O'Malley
Down in the valley
had a hound, I understand.
It swallowed a cake
Of Grandma's lye soap.
Now it's the cleanest hound in all the land
Oh, let us sing right out (sing out!)
For Grandma's Lye Soap,
Sing it out, all over the place!
For pots and pans, and dirty dishes,
And for your hands,
And for your face!
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The Making of Lye Soap

How did they make lye soap back in the Appalachins?

At the annual hog-killing time, the lard was saved and mixed with lye and water to form the soap.

Ashes from the wood stove were used to make lye. The ash was heated until it became white, and was then mixed with water. The resulting liquid was then processed to make lye.

Huge old fashioned kettles were used for the mixture of lard and lye, and this was heated over an open fire. The amount of lye used determined the strength (or harshness) of the soap.

After the mixture was cooked, it was often poured into a metal pan to dry and harden - a process that often took 2-4 weeks or more. Then it was cut into bars and used for about anything you can think of!
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Class of '59 Project for NWOSU

James Bradley says, "Dear Fellow Friends of NWOSU, Howdy fellow classmates. It is hard to fathom that 50 years has passed since that joyous day in June 1959 when we walked across the stage, received our Diploma, shook hands with the officials, and moved our Tassels from the right to the left side.

"Last April was Spring Reunion and our class was honored at the home of the President of NWOSU and we received our 50-year lapel pin. When we graduated we did not leave any gift as a memorial from our class. I am proposing that we should do so now. As I see it, this is bigger than the Class of 1959, it is something for the entire Alumni community.

What I envision is an Endowment that would provide a lecture series: “... something similar to a lecture series at Kansas State University, known as The Landon Lecture Series.

"The series, as I envision it in my thoughts, doesn't have to be like this series in every way. I think the list of speakers should be persons of current stature in world, national, or even state circles, not necessarily political. I think the person could be in science/medicine, an author, a President of a major company, a military leader, or a college/university leader from a major school. I know that I have a much different outlook on these things now than I might have had fifty years, or so, ago.

"The student of today seems much more interested in hearing outside points of view, especially those that coincide with some topic of the semester's classes. It seems to me that it would make a much more rounded student that graduates from NWOSU.

"I think we have an opportunity here to bring something useful to NWOSU other than another plaque or bench or monument. If we do it correctly we can leave a lasting legacy for generations to come. Something that will be useful as part of an education process.”

"If an alumnae were able to donate $100 to this project, it would take 250 donations to establish the Endowment that would automatically generate another $25,000 in matching funds from the State Board of Regents. Of course larger amounts would be welcome and would increase the size of the gift. I am kicking this off with a donation of $1,000 as seed money to start this Endowment.

"If you can see fit to donate to this Endowment, please do so soon in order for you to get an income tax benefit for 2009 and so that it can be announced this Fall. Please make your checks payable to Northwestern Foundation, Inc. For more about where to mail the donation contact: James E. Bradley, Class of 1959 - Email: jbrad723@bluevalley.net
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Changeable Oklahoma

Roy says, "I think it was Will Rogers who said, "if you don't like the weather in Oklahoma just wait a minute!"

July 17, 2009 -- "We are expecting record low temperatures in our state tomorrow morning and it may even be cooler the next day. Must be in response to that 'global warming' they keep warning us about.

"Yesterday (Thursday, July 16th) we had another rain-storm that brought 55/100 of an inch in my rain gauges here in Perry. And the gasoline prices have stabilized for the time being at $2. 20.9 at the highest priced station in the downtown area (Sinclair) while the downtown Conoco raised theirs back up to $2.18.9 (probably just for the weekend).

"We're expecting some more rain in the next few days. The timing is perfect for the farmers who have finished harvesting the wheat harvest. For the others, they probably need a break anyway.

"I think I'll probably be going to another estate auction tomorrow morning. Lots of 'good' stuff being offered."
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WWII POW Camp - Okemah, OK

Dolores Frimel says, "Stephen Ryyker, I too was born in Okemah in 1936. I remember walking by ( I believe it was called the Pecan bowl ) and the prisoners waving at us.

"My grandparents lived North of it and left just before the road curved. We were only there for two week vacations in the summer. We went to a rodeo in the Pecan bowl. Seems like some movie personality was there.

"Stephen Ryyker, are you related to Raymond, Glen and Pac Ryker. Helen Ryker, Glen's widow, is a distant relative on my Morphis side. I saw her a few weeks ago. I would like to see some pictures of the Pecan Bowl. I didn't realize that the prisoners built wall there." -- OkieLegacy, Vol. 8, Iss. 22 - WWII POW Camp - Okemah, OK
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The People's Chronology

David found "The People's Chronology" book at a garage sale awhile back, here in SW Colorado. It is a year-by-year record of human events from Prehistory to the present (1973), edited by James Trager, published by Holt, Rinehart and Winston, New York.

The People's Chronology was copyrighted in 1979. It is the first edition, includes a historical chronology, ISBN 0-03-017811-8, with 1206 pages, including the index.

It includes historical facts concerning political events, exploration colonization, economics, finance, retailing, human rights, social justice, science, technology, energy, transportation, medicine, religion, education, communication, media, literature, publishing, art, photography, theater,music, sports, everyday life, tobacco, crime, architecture, environment, agriculture, marine resources, food availability, nutrition, consumer protection, food and drink, population.

Starting on page 1 with 3 Million B.C. and working its way historically through over 1100-plus pages to 1973.

So ... the person or persons who say, "Life on earth is only 6000 years old." To those certain persons whom I may or may not name -- perhaps do NOT know their history of the earth or have been misinformed!

For example ...
3 Million B.C. -- An upright-walking australopithecine ape-man appeared on the earth in the late Pliocene period and had thumb-opposed hands in place of forefeet, which permitted him and his female counterpart to use tools. Fossil remains found by Carl Johanson in Ethiopia's Awash Valley, A.D. 1974 with further finds in 1975 substanciate that fact.

1 Million B.C. -- The australopithecine ape-man becomes extinct as the human species becomes more developed. Homo erectus erectus is unique among primates in having a high proportion of meat relative to plant foods in his diet, but like other primates he is omnivorous, a scavenger who competes with hyenas and other scavengers while eluding leopards.

400,000 to 360,000 B.C. -- Homo erectus hominid of the Middle Pleistocene period (Peking man) may have used fire to cook venison, which supplemented his diet of berries, roots, nuts, acorns, legumes, and grains.

By conserving his energies, he could track down swifter but less intelligent animals, but he still split bones to get at the marrow because he did not use fire effectively to make the marrow easily available.

120,000 to 75,000 B.C. -- Neanderthal man of the Upper Pleistocene period had large front teeth, which he may have used as tools. Less than half of his surviving infants reached age 20, 9 out of 10 of these died before age 40.

By 75,000 B.C. the neanderthal man had become a skilled hunter, able to bring down large, hairy elephant-like mammals (Mammuthus primiginius), saber-toothed tigers, and other creatures that would become extinct. Neanderthal man cared for his sick and aged but engaged in cannibalism when necessary.

50,000 B.C. -- Neanderthal man may have been on the west coast of the Western Hemisphere and may even have reached the continent 20,000 years earlier.

As determined by racemization tests that record the extent to which molecules of aspartic acid in a a specimen have altered in their fifiguration from the form that occurs in living bone to its mirror image. Such tests were conducted in the A.D. 1970s on bones found between A.D. 1920 and A.D. 1935, but the rate of change is affected by such factors as temperature, so the tests were not be conclusive.

42,000 B.C. -- The continent that would be called Australia was populated by the earth's first seafaring people. Colonists arrived from the Asian mainland.

38,000 B.C. -- Homo sapiens emerged from Neanderthal man and, while physically less powerful, had a more prominent chin, a much larger brain volume, and superior intelligence. Homo sapiens would split into six major divisions, or stocks: Negroids, Mongoloids, Caucasoids, Australoids, Amerindians, and Polynesians, and some of these would have subdivisions. Caucasoids would include Alpine, Mediterranean and Nordic stocks.

Homo sapiens control of fire and his development of new, lightweight bone and horn tools, weapons and fishhooks, and his superior intelligence permitted man to obtain food more easily and to preserve it longer.

Hunters provided early tribes with meat from bison and tigers, while other tribes-people fished and collected honey, fruits and nuts (as shown by cave paintings near Aurignac in southern France).

36,000 B.C. -- Homo sapiens reached the northern continent of the Western Hempisphere, where Neanderthal man had probably preceded him.

33,000 B.C. -- Homo sapiens became the dominate species on earth with no serious rivals to his supremacy.

28,500 B.C. -- The island that would be called New Guinea was populated by colonists who arrived either from Australia or from the Asian mainland.

27,000 B.C. -- The islands that would be called Japan were reached by Homo sapiens who may have arrived in the islands as much as 5,000 years ago over ice sheets or land bridges.

25,000 B.C. -- Fishermen in Europe's Dordogne Valley had developed short baited toggles that became wedged at an angle in fishes' jaws when the line, made of plant fibers, was pulled taut.

Small pits lined with hot embers or pebbles preheated in fires were used by Homo sapiens for cooking food that may have been covered with layers of leaves or wrapped in seaweed to prevent scorching.

13,600 B.C. -- A Great Flood inundated much of the world following a sudden 130-foot rise in sea levels as a result of runoff from a rapid melting of a glacial ice sheet covering much of the northern continent of the Western Hemisphere. Time is approximate and somewhat conjectural.

How far back do we need to go to educate the Alaska Governor, Ms Palin, that life on earth began more than 6000 years ago!
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