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December 13, 2003, Vol. V, Iss.49

Oakie's NW Corner...

As you all know, I have been battling a cold, flu bug the last week during all this snowy, December weather. It seems like the last week as been wiped from my December calendars and gone... who knows where. I'm almost feeling better, though. Sometimes I feel the urge to take things a bit slower and some things get pushed to the side. Christmas decorations, shopping have not even begun around this household.

December 7, 2003, Sunday, began our December week in NW Oklahoma with promises from our weathermen that snow would be soon on the horizon in a couple of days. Our first snow fell Tuesday, December 9, 2003 with blowing, drifting snow fall that left 3 inches of that white, cold stuff in the NW corner. some say that the Oklahoma Panhandle had eight foot drifts on that date.

Dec. 12, 2003, 3:30pm - Snow on Maple Street, Alva, OKFriday, 12 December 2003, here I sit in NW Oklahoma pinning this week's OkieLegacy Ezine issue while more of that fluffy, white snow is falling by the inches as fast as is possible. these photos were taken in mid-afternoon around 3:30p.m. I am postively sure after the snow settles, the school children will be getting their sleds out this weekend for a few fast slippery sled rides down Nob Hill, in Alva, Oklahoma. Do you remember your childhood snow days on those snowpacked streets in your community when the city street supervisors would block off the sloping streets for a winter playground on wintery snow days?

Did anyone stop to remember this last Sunday, December 7, 1941. It was 62 years ago last Sunday, that famous "Day In Infamy" (bombing of Pearl Harbor, Hawaii) that brought us into WWII. Was it really a surprise or planned to get Americans fired up for WWII? Do you or your grandparents remember what was going on in your lives 62 years ago? We would love for you to share your WWII thoughts with us.

It was a few days after the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Sunday, 7 December, 1941 -- I was not even a glimmer in my parents eyes. They had been married for over a year (March, 1940), but no children yet. My Uncle Bob McGill was single, 2nd Lt. in the armed forces, with the 193rd Tank Bn, somewhere on a pullman train headed through New Mexico towards San Francisco, California to board a ship for the Hawaiian Islands. Uncle Bob sent mail to his folks back home in Oklahoma that he had arrived safely and they were not fighting any battles yet. By January 10, 1942, Uncle Bob wrote a letter home from Honolulu, Hawaii to his mother asking them to address all his mail to 2nd Lt. Armored Force, Schofield Bks, T.H. Read more about Uncle Bob's Timeline -- Click HERE.

One of our readers is searching for information about Cowboy Hill Cemetery and the Shea family that lived on the 101 Ranch in the early 1900s. If you have any information to share, Contact Lavon in the Mailbag Corner below. Maybe you might be able to help some others in the mailbag corner.

Before I hibernate for the weekend -- recover from the cold/flu -- and dig out of this latest snow, let me tell you that I did find an old Alva Review Courier paper dated, Monday, December 19, 1949. December 1949 was my first Christmas on this Earth. Perhaps I will save that for next week's issue of The Okie Legacy. Some of the headlines back then were... German Officer Found Guilty On 9 Charges; Military Moves in On Syria; VanBuskirk Dies From heart Attack; Alva Merchants To Keep Later Hours for Cchristmas Shoppers; Eisenhower Is Attack Target of Left Wing... If you have any '49 memories to share from December, 1949, send them along. Until next weekend... Stay warm, safe on the snowy, highways if you are out and about doing necessary holiday shopping.

~~ Linda "oaKie" ~~

Alva's Snow - 12 Dec. 2003
(Maple Street, 3:30p.m.)

1027 Maple Street, Alva, Snow 2003, December.

Duchess does sport her red downy jacket, but is reluctant to head out the door at first thought. Sometimes I have to push her out in the middle of the yard.


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Mailbag & Links Corner....


Sabala Namesake... "My Father was born in Arkansas, but raised in Hartshorne, Oklahoma. My Grandfather (my namesake) John M. Sabala was a coal miner for 50 years. I have fond memories of his farm with the horses and other farm animals. I found this site very nice." -- John F. Sabala - E-mail: sabala@us.ibm.com

Magill/McGill's of North Carolina... "Looking for researchers looking for McGill's in the Lincoln County, North Carolina area who came to that are during the later 1700's from Ulster (Northern Ireland). My ancestor was Margaret McGill who married Isaac Wells, about 1800-1803. Her mother died before her, her father and sibling left for America. Her father or brother was Robert McGill." -- Lynn Hawkins - Email: lhawkins@3wave.com

Cowboy Hill Cemetery... "Hi, Oakie-Belle, Have been trying to locate information on the Cowboy Hill Cemetery and information about the Shea family that lived on the 101 Ranch in the early 1900's, about 1910-11. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks." -- Lavon - Email: lavonn@cox.net

Your Homespun Writings... "Would like to subscribe to your Publication (The OkieLegacy). I am not an Okie but was raised in North Eastern, Kansas during the Dirty Thirties. Left there in 1939, on to Colorado for a few years and enlisted in the Army in 1942, discharged in December 1945. Remained in California but have some good memories of your area and enjoy your 'homespun' writings. Thanks again." -- Ralph

The Wyles & Heavener, Oklahoma... "I am the son of Berry O'Bill Wyles, and the grandson of Andrew Jackson Wyles from Heavener, Oklahoma. I am trying to trace back my roots. Anyone that can help, please email me. Thank you!" -- Chester William Wyles - E-mail: arkhog@bellsouth.net

Searching Other Sources of Kachel's Family... "Sameule Kachel and Fianna (Weinhold) Kachel are my wife's great-grandparents through their son Richard Kachel, a brother of John Lewis Kachel. We have received The Kachel History through your Hurt Legacy and just this week received a copy of the book Gloss Mountain County and enjoyed reading about the Kachel's. If you know of any other sources of Kachel information please let us know. My wife and her sibblings know almost nothing about their Kachel family. Their family moved to California about 1940 and there was almost no contract with their family from that point on. We live in Bend, Oregon - Our E-mail address: threedaychurches@aol.com." -- Charles & Joanne (Bailey, Kachel) Parker - E-mail: threedaychurches@aol.com
The White House in Watonga... "I have a photo of a house my grandfather built in Watonga (Oklahoma) about 1905 or 1906. The house is located on Lots 1 & 2 of Block 16. Can anyone give me an address or any information. My grandfather name is Charles Clinton Clyde White. Thank you in advance." -- Charlie White -
E-mail: charliewhite@cox.net

Camp Howze in 1940s... "1945 in March, April or May I was at Camp Howze. There also was a group of Puerto Rico men being trained.We shipped out to New York, New Jersey area. Then on a train to Pittsburg, California, then to Philippine Island. Any one happen to know when I would have been at Camp Howze?" -- Art Morneweck - E-mail: papa@twmi.rr.com

Okies... "I have family in Oklahoma I am proud one of them is a deputy Sheriff. This is not a trick. I am honest as the day is long.' -- Earl D. Smitley - Email e.smitley@mschi.com.
POW Camp at Ft. Reno... "I would really like to access records that would show who the prisoners at Fort Reno, worked for. I was about 12 years old when some of them worked for my father a couple of days. I know there is a roster of names in." -- Altus O. “Al” Ayers - Email: AYERS-AND-HEIRS@SBCGLOBAL.NET

Coulters, Pearson, Kaiser Family Search in Waynoka (Oklahoma)... "I am interested in the Waynoka, Woods Co. Oklahoma cemetary photo's, mostly interested in Coulters, Pearson, Kaiser family. Ifyou have any information, I will be interested in hearing from you by way of email. Thank you very much." -- Carolyn Pearson Mowery - Email: missyid2002@yahoo.com
Dec. 7, 1941 -- 62 Years Ago... "I was born in Oklahoma in 1920 lived there until 1928 when my mother remarried to a man in Washington State and moved me there with them. I Married in 1941. My husband and I were driving down the highway on the way home from attending our garden that was outside of the town where we lived. In those days when an important story broke they would print up what they called Extra's (Many copies of the breaking news). They gave them to young boys who were already delivering daily papers and had them stand on busy street corners and hold up the papers so passers by could see the headlines and shout Extra, Extra War Declared. At first it didn't register. Then all of a sudden I told my husband that kid with the extras was yelling War Declared. My husband said it couldn't have... but I told him, 'Yes I am sure that is what he was saying so turn around and lets get a paper.' Hubby grumbled a little but he did turn around -- we went back -- bought a paper -- sure enough it was telling about the Pearl Harbor bombing. Also, at that time I was pregnant with the first of our eventually 7 children and my daughter was born Sunday May 17 1942. My husband was working at the time for a major oil company unloading ships that came into our port city, but about 1943 he did get his draft notice and took his physical and passed it. We sold our house and remodeled a boat house that belonged to my father, for us to live in so we could afford to live on his pay while he was in the army so I could stay home with our children, without my working. We waited and waited and finally in about late 1944 he received a notice that they would not be calling him after all as he was over age. So he just kept unloading ships all the time the war was on. It was an essential industry and that also gave them reason to not call him up for active duty. Food and gasoline was rationed. So to help the war effort we raised big gardens -- we had almost 2 acres of bottom black soil land and grew vegetables and raised chickens. I never did work away from home but did raise food in of form of vegetables and we sold the vegetables and chickens so figured we were contributing to the food shortage. Things like canned fruit juice, chocolate bars, and film for cameras was in short supply for the people at home as it was sent to feed the army and navy, etc. I remember one time a russian ship came in to be unloaded where my husband worked. The Russian sea men had their families with them, the women scrubbed the deck, etc. One of the Russian Sailors came ashore and went into a meat market and bought a whole salami and paid the meat market clerk (He spoke no English) but had cash to pay, then the clerk ask him for his ration tickets for the meat as meat, sugar, flour and many other things were on ration and you had an allotment of coupons and they had to last you until the next allotment time came around, well this poor Russian seaman had no ration coupons and did not know what the clerk wanted, so the clerk had one end of the salami and the seaman the other. The clerk finally let him have it without the coupon but bet he sure had a hard time when he filed his report explaining how and why he was short of coupons. Did not intend to write you a book, but I am 83 years old and writing about my life so this fits right in with what I am writing about and will save this for one of my stories about my life." -- Nettie

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