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October 18, 2003, Vol. V, Iss. 42

Oakie's NW Corner...

Have I got a treasure for some of you former Alva High Grads! I received in the snail-mail this week a 1920 Pow-Wow, Alva High yearbook. I have started scanning the pages and have placed them over at my NEW Webshots photo album - NWOkieLegacy. This 83-year-old yearbook, I figure would put the Seniors at the age of 100 or 101 present day.

When I was glancing through and reading the Senior Class' history, prophecy and Will that they had written up, I wonder if any of those prophecies ever came true. Very interesting reading and a great source for some of you who are doing your genealogy out there. Hope this jogs some of those memory cells for some of you out there.

I have had several requests this week for lists of WWII German POW's. Has anyone out there ever come across a list? Check out the Mailbag Corner for some interesting tidbits about some of the German POW artists that graced the Alva Camp. There is an inquiry as to the identity of the portrait of a young German girl (daughter of another German POW in Alva Camp during 1943-45).

Sandie sent us a picture of the restoration being done on the Edith Section foreman house that is to be moved to the Waynoka Museum & Historical Site.

When I was scanning this Old 1917 NSN Ranger yearbook for my NW OkieLegacy Webshots album, I found a photo showing the Alva Fountain on the downtown square. It shows some buildings in the background. Is that the northside or the southside buildings showing in the background? It must be Winter in this photo because of the icicles are like icing on a tiered-wedding cake... hanging from the fountain's edges.

As to myself, my horses and my Pug (Duchess)... I have been enjoying this beautiful Fall weather we have been having in NW Oklahoma. I am still helping feed the horses. My two-year-old mare (Cassie) is being ridden and trained for pleasure riding. I am told that she is a smooth, smart young thing. It must be all that TLC that she received as a young filly. As for Duchess... at the present time she is zonked out. Ever since this Tuesday she has been taking it easy recovering from her stitches when she visited her favorite Vet and did the spaying thing. Duchess is back to her sweet, charming, lovable self... as usual! BUT... with stitches on her belly for the next week or so.

NOW... It is time for this NW Okie to call it a night and retire for the evening. We hope you can find some memory joggers amongst our old yearbooks we have been scanning to share with Y'all! See you all next weekend and keep those Okie Legacies coming this way! We couldn't do it without your memories! Thanks!!

~~ Linda "oaKie" ~~

1917 Alva Ladies

1917 Alva Ladies - Click for larger view

     I found this old photo stuck inside the 1917 NSN Ranger yearbook. I am assuming that one of the ladies may be my grandmother, Constance E. McGill. BUT... I am NOT certain of that.
     You know what... I wish that I had taken more of an interest in these old photos while Grandmother, Granddad and Dad were alive. Perhaps then some old photos would have been identified. Click the photo to view the larger picture and see if you recognize this somewhat blurry snapshot of these 1917 NW Ladies.


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Young German daughter of WWII German POW in Alva CampWWII Alva German POW Artist... "My father, Friedrich Wilhelm Rohrlack, born 1918, was a prisoner at Camp Alva 1943-1945. He was also an artist, mostly landscapes and scenery and he was from Berlin. I was sent copies of the wall paintings and they could have been painted by him. One other note: While he was there he painted a portrait of a teenage blond girl who was the daughter of one of the prisoners. My father, before he died, asked that I try to find who this person is and send the portrait to her. I had tried to get this organized two years ago, but my mother, who now has Alzheimer's, stopped me from following through. The last that I remember is that the picture was painted from a photograph of the daughter of a German prisoner. My father's request was that we try to find the person in this picture, somehow, and I would then forward it to them. To, however, ensure that we have the right person, I covered up the neck as this girl was wearing a rather unusual necklace. The person that claims this picture should therefore be able to describe this necklace in detail or provide a photograph that would show who this person is. The actual painting is 21" X 27", plus matting and frame. The other matter... I would like to pursue, is the inner wall paintings found in the huts. My father was a very good artist, mostly scenery and mostly from German themes. I should note that he was a Berliner, and I understand that some of the art work was from Berlin. His name was Friedrich Wilhelm Rohrlack born 1918, died 1995. I know this could be a long shot, but I would very much succeed in this endeavor. Thank you" -- Werner Rohrlack - E-mail address: w.r.accounting@shaw.ca

Welsh Ponies are Heavenly... "We raise Welsh ponies in Okarche, Oklahoma." -- Shari

Lifelong Home - Oklahoma... "Oklahoma is my lifelong home and I love it." -- Gloria

Edith, Oklahoma Section Foreman House being restored and moved to waynoka, Okla.Edith Section House Restoration... "The exterior restoration of the Edith section foreman's house is progressing beautifully. We are excited about moving it to our site." -- Sandie





Oklahoma Hills - Good Memories... "I sure like this site. It brings back so many good memories of Aunt Pat and Uncle Gene Hulsey and Grandma Lillie and Grandma Knight.Would like to hear of/from the cousins. In those Oklahoma Hills where I was born." -- Lucy Ruth Phillips-Romero - E-mail address: grandmalucirom@Charter.net

Korean War, Heart Shield Bible - Cpl. Bob c. HayesOld Soldier Request!... "I enjoy the Legacy with relish each week. You must be Wonder Woman to manage your time so perfectly! I am hoping that some of your readers will help me find an old soldier. Some time ago I found a small, Gold, small bible - Korean War Treasure from Victorian AtticHeart Shield Bible with heart shield belonging to a soldier serving in the Korean War. The owner was Cpl. Bob C. Hayes whose parents (Mr. and Mrs. R.C. Hayes) lived in Okmulgee, Oklahoma. There is a dear inscription that would surely be treasured by a family member. The cardboard cover with address is intact with a military address in San Francisco, California. If this soldier or his family can be determined and located, the Bible will be returned to them. Giving me the name and exact address of the parents could be a determining factor. The book is such an interesting artifact of that time in history -- I can't help wondering if this soldier came home. Also, how did this book end up in the dusty attic of my Victorian home? The soldier would be about 75 years old. The book measures 3 1/2 x 5 inches and is deteriorating so it is time to find it a proper home. If the owner (family) is not located it will be donated to a deserving museum. Thanks for your consideration. It will be exciting to learn the rest of the story. Thanks." -- Bonnie - Email: bhaas@akslc.net

WWII German POW Camps... "The website about the WWII POW Camp in Alva is very interesting. I have been researching info about the Tonkawa Camp for several years. Spearheading the campaign, a historical monument has been placed on the site of the POW camp. Would you have any info about getting the list of German prisoners for the camp? Occasionally a visitor at our museum will want to know this -- these people usually are of German descent." -- E. Coyle
Camp Carson... "I was interested in your WWII POW camps on your website. I was wondering if you have any information on Camp Carson, Colorado? My step-father served there but never talked much about it. Also, have you ever heard of Germans who settled in South America being captured and sent to POW camps in the US as a precaution? Interesting website, good info. Thanks for your consideration." -- Bonnie
Camp Carson - Fort Carson History - Colorado Springs... "The War Years -- With the acceptance of the first buildings by the camp commander, Col. Wilfrid M. Blunt, the war-time post was in business. Two days later, on June 4, 1942, Maj. Gen. William H. Gill arrived to assume command of the 89th Infantry Division. The first troops of the 89th arrived from Jefferson Barracks, Missouri on June 15 and one month later the division was activated. During World War II, a total of 104,165 soldiers trained at Camp Carson. Along with three other infantry divisions--the 71st, 104th and 10th Mountain--more than 125 units were activated at Camp Carson and over 100 other units were transferred to the mountain post from other installations. The camp trained nurses, cooks, mule packers, tank battalions, a Greek infantry battalion and an Italian ordnance company--soldiers of any and every variety. Toward the end of the war, after the departure of the divisions and established units, Camp Carson trained replacement troops and provisional companies. The peak troop strength of the installation was in late 1943 when approximately 43,000 military personnel were stationed at the camp."
     "The POW Camp -- The internment camp, opened on the first day of 1943, was later re designated a POW camp. Located just inside Gate 3 between the service and supply area and Highway 115, it originally housed 3,000 prisoners. In 1945, an additional 5,000 prisoners were housed in barracks located east of Pershing Field in the area now occupied by Division Artillery. A total of nearly 9,000 German, Italian, and some Japanese prisoners of war were interned at Camp Carson during World War II. During 1944, POWs alleviated the manpower shortage in Colorado by doing general farm work, canning tomatoes, cutting corn, and aiding in logging operations on Colorado's Western slope. They earned 80 cents a day. In the winter months at Carson, they worked in the Ouartermaster Laundry and other places on and off post. About 3,650 POWs worked at 17 branch camps located throughout the state. At Camp Hale, near Leadville, about 400 of the most incorrigible members of Field Marshal Erwin Rommel's Afrika Corps were confined under tight security. Each of the compounds of the camp had a canteen where prisoners could purchase personal necessities and a few luxuries. The prisoners built the canteens and made their own furniture in a prison woodworking shop. The prisoners also published their own newspaper, a 20-page mimeograph magazine-size publication called "Die PW Woche." The paper, printed in German, was staffed by seven of the internees. The staff had many American newspapers and magazines for reference purposes. Restrictions imposed on the paper were few. There was no board of censors as such, but Camp Carson personnel discussed the paper with the prisoners before it was composed. A cemetery was set aside for POWs who died here. After the war, their bodies were shipped to their homelands. Only one POW strike is recorded. The day after the war in Europe ended, Americans took all the food and cigarettes out of the canteen. The only items left were books and papers, and the POWs were decidedly miffed. The strike ended a couple of days later when the prisoners were told that if they returned to work, food and cigarettes would be returned to the canteen. In January, 1946, there were still a large number of German prisoners at Carson. By July 21, 1946, all had been returned to Europe or released. "

Dick & Marjean McCrady... "Dick McCrady was an engineer, civilian employee at Oklahoma City Air Logistics Center. Marjean was a bank officer in Oklahoma City. I dated an engineer who worked with Dick, met them both. We went out to eat often, played bridge, went to Missouri for the Big Eight wrestling championship one year. After I had known them sometime, I learned that Dick was a nephew of Parthena McCrady, my second favorite teacher after Lee Haley, and that Marjean was from Alva. Marjean died of cancer. Dick later married Mrs. Sneary (widow of auto dealer Sneary, mother of Jerry) who gave up smoking for Dick. They traveled a great deal after their marriage. Dick died suddenly on one of their trips ... to the Middle East, I think."

Dick & Marjean McCrady... "Dick Married Alice Sneary. Mom and Dad were good friends of the McCradys. They lived in Kansas." -- Steve
Marjean Baker McCrady... "Although, I never saw Marjean again after my family moved from Alva in 1937, I thought about her every so often. And I hadn't known the story about her brother and the accident on the square until it appeared in your newsletter. It must have had a real impact on the rest of his life. It was kind of you to share the info about Marjean and I do appreciate it."

Concerts at Cain's Ballroom... "Hello, we wanted to give everyone a few updates to the Cain's Concert Calendar... This week at the Cain's: Static X - Tuesday, October 14th; Charlie Robison - Wednesday, October 15th, Tickets are only $15... And don't forget the rest of October's lineup: Michael Martin Murphey - Thursday, October 23rd; Jason Boland & the Stragglers - Thursday, October 30th; Freaker's Ball - Friday, October 31st
(17 Local Bands will be playing and there will be a $500 cash prize for the best costume). Tickets are only $7. For more information, check out: www.cainsballroom.com

Nevada Ghost-towns... "I have to do a PowerPoint on Dayton, NV. I have been searching the web all day and have finally found your website, but you don't have Dayton. You should definitely think about focusing around Nevada because Nevada is so interesting."

Sweet Little Pug Pups... "Approximately 43 years ago my husband bought me a little female pug pup (Skoshi) from the Reitz family at Cherokee. It cost him $35 dollars which I think was more than our grocery budget for 2 weeks. We probably visited kinfolk at mealtimes for a while. I don't remember how he justified that to me. I am sure that it made sense at the time." -- Ann

News, Books & Regional Info of Canada... "I'm Joe Clawson and this is my site: www.iaqi.com/canada. I contacted you because I would like to exchange links with your site: okielegacy.org/journal/. I think our sites are related. My site contains news, books and regional information about canada.
Liz & Hiedi - Former Alva High GradsLiz & Hiedi All Grown-up... "Do you remember these two Alva girls from high school (Class of '89?) and grade school? Hiedi Edwards-Brown is in Tennessee with two kids and Liz Avila is married and lives in New York. They were pretty close in 5th and 6th grade before Heidi moved away. I found Heidi by accident registering for classmates.com and brought them together through email since Liz was living in Washing, DC at the time." -- Michael


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