Oakie's NW Corner...
Well! Here we finally are... back in Oklahoma and uploading once
again. Just in time to see the end of the wheat harvest winding
down in Northwest Oklahoma -- some of the wheat harvesters in this
area could be seen packing up and heading to the already ripened
wheat fields of Kansas during the earlier part of this last week.
AND... this weekend (Saturday, 21 June 2003)... was the beginning
of Summer. Temperatures were rising to the mid-90s this weekend.
Whew! Hot & Humid out here now!
Early this last week we received some fascinating1930s
writings of Thomas J. Dyer, son-in-law of Scott Cummins and
grandfather of Joy Sherman. As we read the tributes, obituaries
and other stories written by Dyer, it gives us a fantastic historical
account of the events that took place back during the run of 1893
-- what life was like back during the early pioneers days in the
Cherokee Outlet. A special thanks goes out to Joy Sherman of Alva,
Oklahoma for sharing her grandfather's (Tom J. Dyer) writings. Another
special thanks to Jim Barker who transcribed them and sent them
our way. Be sure to check through the Rooster
of Names of Cowboys that Tom Dyer had known -- a special thanks
to Jim Barker for alphabetizing and submitting the list to us all.
Have you or your family heard of any of these NW Oklahoma Territory
cowboys on this list?
In the Mailbag Corner this week, one of our readers from New Mexico
had a clue to why No Mans Lands western boundary does not correspond
to the western edge of the Texas panhandle. It seems it was due
to an error in the survey for the boundary between New Mexico and
Texas. As he stated in his email, "...The survey party assigned
to complete the survey for the Texas portion of the boundary made
an error and moved the boundary to the west." So... should
the Texas towns of Texline, Farwell, Bledsoe, Griffith and Bronco
technically be New Mexico towns?
 Another
reader sent in some more unidentified photos of some children and
patrons of the Carmen IOOF Home of Carmen, Oklahoma. Do any look
familiar to anyone out there?
Duchess would like to thank all those that emailed her personally
concerning her Travels with Duchess Issue
last week. Duchess is "Pug-in-Training." Maybe we will
see some more of her adventures in the near future, occasionally.
Sounds to me like I might have to put Duchess on the payroll once
in awhile, huh? Is it really ".....Out with the Old, in with
the New?"
Take care! Keep Cool and enjoy the Summer of 2003! We will see
you around the original Friday evening time next weekend and perhaps
our web server technical problems will be solved and working smoothly
once again. Keep those Okie Legacies and memories flowing.
~~ Linda "oaKie" &
Duchess~~
T. J. Dyer Poem
"Hush, old timer, cease your repining,
Each somber cloud has a silver lining,
Soon will cease old winter's cold and snow,
Up from the south-land warm breezes blow,
Until all nature will be seen,
Decked out in robes of verdant green.
Then again beneath this leafy bower,
We'll meet to spend a pleasant hour,
May not there be one vacant chair,
But each familiar face be there.
To each familiar voice we'll bark
When we meet next year, in the court house park."
~~ T. J. Dyer ~~
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Mailbag & Links Corner....
Woodford, Oklahoma... "I
was just there yesterday, June 22, 2003. I made the drive up to Mountain
Lake and went by the old spring. It has a marker telling of the importance
of the spring. The dam and the lake were quite impressive. My great-grandfather
is supposed to have died in Woodford in 1914. His name was John Henry
or J. H. Wakefield. His wife's name was Elizabeth Rachelle Hood. The
town is no more than a crossroads now. I will be returning to go through
all the old cemeteries near by." -- Mary Duty - E-mail: mduty@wacoisd.org
Duchess' Adventures... "Duchess, I've enjoyed watching
you grow and the adventures you take!! As an animal loving person
I thank you for sharing your life with (Us)." -- Cheryl
HURT Family in New Zealand... "I'm a Hurt born in New
Zealand but currently living in the UK - all my family live in New
Zealand. Interesting to research other Hurt lineage." -- Vanessa
Hurt - E-mail: vanessahurt@yahoo.co.nz
Belle Starr's Cousin... "I am searching for information
on Bell Star. I would appreciate any help you might be able to give
me. My grandmother always said she was a cousin to Bell Star. Her
name was Lnora Parris." -- Kathy Herren - Email: ktherren@juno.com
Cowboy Stuff... "I have been in contact with Joy Sherman
and she agrees that we need to get her grandfather's stuff onto your
web site. (Her father was Prof. John Cameron, Physics, NW State College;
her grandfather was Tom Dyer, a cowboy in the Woods and Alfalfa Co.,
OK and in Barber and Kiowa Co., KS during the Cherokee Strip cattle
pool days, and her great-grandfather was none other than Scott Cummins,
also known as the Sage of the Nescatunga or the Pilgrim
Bard) She has a lot of great material to share concerning the
early days of the areas. The first is an obituary written by Tom Dyer
in memory of Charles F.
Colcord. The Colcord ranch was not far from Coldwater, KS and
it was from here that the salt haulers set forth from when
they wound up being killed by Little Wolf's and Dull Knife's
Cheyennes during their flight back to the Dakotas. Keep in mind
there's a whole lot more. Some of the remaining articles are pretty
lengthy, but give an excellent account of the activities associated
with the cattle industry in this area at that time. Trails, camp life,
line camps,
old ranch headquarters, important sites and events associated with
it all. It's just a wealth of information. I'm glad to be of service,
but I may be a while getting the rest transcribed." -- Jim Barker
Tom Dyer's Obit for Wiley Cowan... "This is another obituary
(Wiley H. Cowan) penned
by Tom Dyer. Opal Nighswonger, who is listed as one of Wiley's daughters,
was the principal at Longfellow School in Alva when I attended there
in grades three through six (1947-1951)." -- Jim
Ed Hinton Obituary Penned
by Tom Dyer... "Another of Dyer's tributes to the passing
of an old-timer. The name is variously spelled as Hinton and
Henton in the article. I did not know the man, so I am not
sure which is correct." -- Jim
Alpha G. Updegraff Tribute by Tom Dyer... "Another of
Tom Dyer's tributes to one of his old saddle mates. Tribute
to Alpha G. Updegraff by T. J. Dyer" -- Jim
Horse Thieves by Judge
T. H. Dyer, Jan. 31, 1933... "This is another of Tom Dyer's
articles, in which he reminisces about various horse thieving incidents
that he was aware of. I'll give you a rest today. More later! Ain't
Joy a joy?" -- Jim
Goltry, OK History... "We are in charge of collecting
history information on the town of Goltry, OK for it's centennial
celebration. We are also interested in information on the towns of
Alvaretta and Karoma, as they were combined in 1904 to form what is
currently Goltry. These towns were in Woods County. O.T. (Oklahoma
Territory) until Alfalfa County came in to being at statehood. We
were hoping that you might be able to tell us about places to look
for info. Any help that you can give us would be appreciated."
-- Ryan and Hope Pjesky | P.O. Box 223 | Goltry, OK 73739-0223 | 580/496-2222
| Fax: 580/496-2320 | Email: rjp@kanokla.net
Out with the Old... "Boy, you really messed up this time!
Dutchess does a better job at the newsletter than you. Your Readers
are going to want her to do it each week. Shame. I like yours too.
Oh well! Out with the old, in with the new, as the saying goes. :-)
" -- Stanley
Oklahoma & Texas Irregular Stateline... "As to No
Man's Lands Western Boundary... the reason why the western edge
of the Oklahoma panhandle does not correspond to the western edge
of the Texas panhandle... I can’t recall all of the details of
the events which cause the state line with Texas to be “uneven,”
with the state line with Oklahoma, but it is due to an error in the
survey for the boundary between New Mexico and Texas. As I recall
the info, the boundary with Oklahoma had been surveyed, and the survey
party assigned to complete the survey for the Texas portion of the
boundary made an error, and moved the boundary to the west. Was more
than likely a survey crew made up of Texans. The Texas towns of Texline,
Farwell, Bledsoe, Griffith, and Bronco are technically New Mexico
towns. Most every legislative session in New Mexico, someone introduces
a resolution to reclaim the strip of Texas which “is” New
Mexico. Hope you have had an enjoyable vacation. We just returned
from 10 very rainy days in Oklahoma and Kansas. Never thought I would
say it, but the rain certainly wore a bit thin. Six out of the 10
days were very damp." -- Marvin Henry - Email: figment1@zianet.com
Please Add Me... "Please add me to your e-mail list. I
live in Piedmont, my great grandfather Bentley came down from Missouri
for the run of 1889 and settled southwest of Stillwater. After I get
a chance to spend more time on your site, I may have something to
contribute. I'm into genealogy." -- Mac
 Carmen
IOOF Home Photos... More pictures of some of the children at the
Carmen IOOF Home -- Courtesy of Clyde - Email: clydedean@bigplanet.com.
(Click photo for larger view.)
Photo #1 | Photo #2 | Photo
#3
Herron Family... "I came across this website while I was
searching the name of Jim Herron. His wife, May Goddard Herron was
my Great-Grandmother's Sister. I have yet to decide if Jim was a bad
guy or not, but my Great-Grandmother thought he was a pretty nice
man." -- Kim S - E-mail: ksouthwe@bellsouth.net
 Baseball
Photo - 1909... "I think the man in the middle row - second
from the end - is Lawrence Estes - my ggrandfather. I found this
photo on the Logan
County Oklahoma Genweb pages -- Photo
is from 1909 - Will McGill is only player identified - Do you
have any photos of any Estes baseball players? My GG-Grandfather
Lawrence Estes and his brother George Edwin Estes played for several
teams. They are mentioned playing for Douglas,Verden, Marshall and
a team called the Giants. Anything you have would be appreciated."
-- Tammy - Email: tammydonaldson@sbcglobal.net
[Editor's Note: My grandfather, Bill McGill is on the backrow,
third from left. Grandpa's Legacy can be read by Clicking
Here!]
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