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26 January 2002, Vol. IV, Iss. 4

Oakie's NW Corner...

Sometimes strange things do happen to let you know how small a world it is and without even knowing it some small bit of info can help someone find another relative. It happened just that way when one reader was reviewing one of my newsletters a few weeks ago. You can read her story in the "Mailbag" section.

Someone wrote in asking for possible help locating a map of some kind of the tunnels under the city of Okmulgee, Oklahoma. If you know of someone or someplace that could help, would you share your info with us. I don't know that much about the Okmulgee tunnels nor the stories concerning them, but this sounds like an interesting Okie Legacy to uncover. Can anyone help out there?

Nov. 23, 1934, Alva Newspaper articleLast week I mentioned and linked to an old Alva newspaper dated 23 November 1934. On the frontpage there was an article about the Salt Fork River, but because my grandmother Constance only cut out around the obituary on the backside... part of the Salt Fork river story was cut away. Well! This week I made a trip to the microfilm library in search of a copy of that November, 1934 frontpage article to get the rest of the story. You can click on the photo to read the rest of the "Salt Fork River Story" printed 23 November 1934.

Reasoning on Statehood (Oklahoma)I found another little interesting, 1904, frontpage story on the back of a Thanksgiving Poem that my Great-Grandmother cut out of a November 25, 1904, Alva Weekly Courier (which was a successor to the Old Alva Republican, in Alva, Oklahoma Territory. The article was dated Friday, November 25, 1904, Vol. 9, No. 22. The Article was called "Reasoning On Statehood" with a Guthrie, O. T. newspaper by-line, dated November 19, 1904. Click on the photo to read the rest of that article. Everyone knows Oklahoma & Indian Territory came together in November, 1907 as a marriage of statehood.

While I was at the library looking through old microfilms of old newspapers, I ran across a frontpage article, dated Friday, September 14, 1906, in The Alva Weekly Courier, Alva, Oklahoma Territory. It concerns a story of the Alva City Schools and lists the date school opened -- Monday, September 10th, 1906 and lists the superintendent, prinicipal and teachers. One of those teachers was my grandmother Constance Warwick.

That year Miss Warwick was in charge of the fifth grade for the Alva City Public schools. It also mentioned that Miss Warwick graduated from Northwestern Normal school and taught 4 years in succession in District #43, Woods County. Now would someone remind me where, what District #43, in Woods County was located?

Some of the others that had been obtained for the 1906 school year were... Miss Stella Ernest, Prinicipal. Miss Ernest had 4 years experience as principal of public schools with a diploma from several different schools.

Then there was Prof. Guy M. Lisk, superintendent (2nd year for the Alva City public schools). He graduated from Illinois State Normal University at Normal, Illinois and was the former vice-president of Northwestern State Normal, in Alva, O. T.

The 1906, Alva PUblic school teacher in charge of the sixth grade was Mrs. Anna R. Stevens with 12 years experience. The past 3 years in the city schools. She graduated from Kansas State Normal and Kansas University. It reported that Mrs. Stevens was the "Best teacher Alva ever had."

Other teachers that year (1906)... were Miss Stella Stull (taught 4 years in Newkirk schools); Miss Edna Kelley (4th grade teacher, graduated class of 1905); Miss Lula Keith (3rd grade teacher, graduate of Emoria State Normal); Mis Pearl Bickel (2nd grade teacher, graduate of Northwestern Normal, also taught at Cleo, Geary and Cherokee); Miss Edith Norris (3rd year as intermediate, primary teacher, graduate of Northwestern Normal); Miss Jesse Converse (primary teacher in West School, graduate Univ. Kansas, 2 years training primary, kindergarten, 4 years experience training in teaching); Miss Jennie Monfort (2nd & 3rd grade teacher in East building); and Miss Myra Taplin (primary teacher in East school, graduate of Emporia School).

As I leave you for this week, NW Oklahoma has seen temperatures rising into the mid-60s this Friday. They say the evening temps should get down into the 40s. If this is any indication, are we to have our snowy winter in March or April? Seems like back in the Winter of 1971, January started out similar to what we are having now. Later... maybe couple months later the state had a huge snowfall, with drifts that stop business, schools, etc... for a week. Our oldest son was just a baby back then and we were living in Alva and finishing our college degrees.

Can you remember what some of the past snowstorms were like back whenever? Let me know! See You all next weekend!

~~ Linda "OaKie" ~~

Coming Soon...
Minneapolis baseball - early 1900s
Grandpa's Baseball Legacy
August 22, 1906, News Clip Story


2002, DC Snow, January 20
First DC Snow of 2002... "Weather update! It's about time. The snow started late Friday night. It started getting heavy Saturday evening."

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The Mathematics of Life... The equation -- N = N* x fp x ne x f1 x fi x fc x L. -- Frank Drake's equation is thought to be among the most important of the 20th Century, second only to Einstein's E=MC2 . Click on Link to read more about it.


Its A Small World... "Just wanted you to know how much I enjoy both your website and your newsletter! Also wanted to let you know that because of a posting in a recent newsletter, I have connected with a distant relative - and all out of pure chance! To explain how strange things DO happen... I was reviewing one of your newsletters (Vol. IV, Iss. 2) and someone had posted help wanted to find any information on the surname of KISH. Well, I purchased Footprints Across Woods County and The First 100 Years of Alva, Oklahoma and another book called Northwest Oklahoma. So thought I would just glance at the book to see if the KISH surname was even in it. Found quite a few KISH given names in the First 100 years.... book so I sent the person an email with the information I had found. I was then doing more research on my own family line (NICOLA) of Alva, OK because I was getting all confused about who was where, etc. I decided to print out a brief lineup of my NICOLA line, Went to a website where another relative of mine has our line posted, started the print and then started just glancing at the data as it was printed. Don't remember what I was specifically looking for but all of a sudden, the name KISH pops out from the page! Seems this person is related to me also - thru the KISH and NICOLA lines! Weird, huh? Neither of us had a clue that was even remotely possible but........ just proves stranger things DO happen and it is also a very small world when you get to looking at it! Thanks for the great website and the newsletter and for helping me (without even knowing it) find another relative! Maybe someone else will try the same thing! Thanks again and keep up the great work you are doing!!"
William Adams... "Looking for information on William Adams..... middle name may be O. Born in 1890 married Bertie Belle McDougal and died in 1922. He is my great-grandfather and we are having difficulties finding history on his family. We think he was born in Memphis, TN and died in Hatfield, Arkansas, Polk County. We know he had a son Daniel Otto Adams, who was born in Oklahoma in 1912 (this would be my grandfather) there were other children, Uncle T, Aunt Ruby, and others.... but I don't know the names.

My father related a story told to him by HIS father many many years ago. William worked for a man at a ranch/farm. He wanted to go to a dance and needed to borrow a horse to go. The man he worked for said no. William really wanted to go, so after his boss went to bed he took a horse and went anyways. He was found out and they had a fight. It seems William struck the man and thought he killed him, so he ran and dropped out of sight. My father says the family found out later that the man had lived and so William was not a murderer after all, but my dad isn't sure if the truth was found out before he married, after he married, or even while he was living. He died young at 32 years old. This would explain the lack of photos or other information found on him. He hasn't made it easy for us. Also, one person said that his middle name started with an 'O'. This makes me ask 'Was it Otto?' His son Daniel had the middle name Otto. so it bears searching out. Berti (Birdie) was born 11/26/1889 in Texas and passed away 11/7/1940 and is buried in Tushka, Oklahoma. Her parents were Jeff McDougal and Mary (Molly) Fox. His Wife: BIRDIE MCDOUGAL... on her death certificate it states that she died Nov 7, 1940 and was 42 years old. Many people show her born in 1889. Her husband at the time of her death (Claud Tigert says he is 56 years old). I have information from my father who says that in fact, Claud Howard Tigert was born 3/17/1884 and died 4/27/1978. My information also states that she was born in Texas on November 26th. William (her first husband) was born in 1890 in Memphis, TN. Also I've since learned that there was a child from the union of Birdie and Claud who is Eloyse Bernice Tigert birth unknown.... but she married Tigert AFTER 1922 when William dies, so the child was born between 1922 and 1940. " -- Laura

Smith's College Cleaners, Nov., 1934Smith Cleaners in Alva... "Hi Linda, About the Smith Cleaners, it was owned and operated by Errol Smith's Father. Erroll Smith owned and operated the City Cleaners, which was located at 519 Barnes. This is the location where I started in the dry cleaning business in 1982, then relocated to 432 Okla. Blvd. I have a picture at the cleaners of there old delivery truck and the Smith brothers, I can't remeber the date on it but I can get the picture and get a copy of it for you if you would like. I still use the same spotting techniques and solvents that Erroll used, I was taught by the best."


Looking for Info... "Searching for information about McKinster families that settled in Woods Co. during period of 1890 - 1920." -- LMckin@aol.com

Boiled Plum Dumplings... "Hi again! Just wondered if anyone heard also of Boiled Plum Dumplings. Mom made these by rolling 'the dough' and cutting into squares, putting one plum in center with a little sugar and dab of butter, margarine. Folded up the edges of the dough and pinched the edges together. Ending in a triangular shape. Then, very carefully placed each dumpling in boiling water. Boiled until done about five minutes plus. We had this as dessert! (It was very filling.) Sort of sweet and tart at same time. I would love to have the dumplin- dough recipe. This was not from a cookbook, but also another by feel recipe. I believe it was basically flour and egg, and very little salt, and water .The amounts varied she would say as altitude,. .. this dough was consistency of bread dough, as we could handle it and did not stick to rolling pin. It was rolled on a floured board." -- Marilyn
Okmulgee history... "Linda, I can't begin to tell you how much I enjoy these bits and pieces of your live and that of OK. Keep up the great work. I love it. Do you have anything on Okmulgee, OK. When I was a child a family lived up the street from me and they were from this small town. Anyway. Thanks for all the history and hope you're feeling much better."

Okmulgee Tunnels... "I live in Okmulgee and we have tunnels under the city that were there around the time of WWII i know people who have been in the tunnels. And have heard many stories concerning them. I would like to locate a map of some kind of the tunnels and i'm not having any luck. If anyone could help me with this or give advice i wold appreciate it. Thank you." -- Tonya

Hyperlinking in emails & newsletters... "I was wanting to know if you would explain how to put hyperlinks to web sites in a newsletter. One of the customers of our convenience store is trying to put together an advertising newsletter with hyperlinks to the respective websites and he is not able to get the links to work. Thank you for taking time to help. By the way, I enjoy your newsletters. Keep them coming!"

Another DC Snow picture, January, 2002
January, 2002, first DC Snow


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