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19 January 2002, Vol. IV, Iss. 3

Oakie's NW Corner...

Well... Here it is again! Another Friday night of burning the late night oil. I do have some interesting treasures in the "Mailbag" section that I think you might find rather interesting.

Sometimes being couped up at home with a headcold, flu for a week can be a productive thing. Since I couldn't get out and about to take some outside shots of my neck-of-the-woods county, in NW Oklahoma -- I rummaged through some old family boxes of memories and found some treasures to share.

It all began when I found my Great-Grandmother's book (bible) that she received when she was thirteen almost fourteen years of age. On the inside she wrote... Siga B. Gwins Book and the date she received it (February 27th, 1876).

It's what I found folded between the pages inside that are treasures for me. One was an old Alva newspaper clipping dated November 23, 1934. It showed Gr-Grandmother Signora B. (Gwin) Warwick's Obituary. On the backside of the November, 1934 Alva Paper was some interesting tidbits concerning the history of the Salt Fork River bridge, etc...

The Obituary starts out... Signora Bell Gwin was the daughter of Sam and Ellen Gwin. She was born near Monterey, Virginia, August 31, 1861 and departed this life at her home in Alva, Oklahoma, November 16, 1934, at the age of 73 years, 2 months, and 15 days.

What was interesting to me was... the facts about the three children born to John Robert & Signora Gwin Warwick. The clipping stated that... To this union were born three children, Constance, Robert Lee Warwick and Wilber. Wilber is the child I have never heard of or heard my grandmother, father speak of. Wilber died at the age of one year. Perhaps a childhood disease. I don't know for sure. Wilber was the youngest. Did he die before John & Signora, family came west in 1894 to homestead land seven miles south of Alva, in Oklahoma Territory? Or on the way? Or after they settled here? Questions... Always around the next bin!

Seven miles south of Alva... That's the approximate location where Hopeton now stands. I do know that Gr-Grandpa John R. Warwick traded his wooded, tree lined property with creek running through it for 3/4-quarters of land that is five south of Alva.

Before I call it a night and leave you hanging in mid-air... I will ask some of you former residents of Alva, Woods County, Oklahoma, if you ever heard of... Hankin's Dairy (located east of College is what the 1934 Ad read) & something called "666 Liquid Tablets Salve & Nose Drops" -- Smith's College Cleaners (where pure cleaning fluid and expert spotting, handling and pressing are their magic secrets to keeping clothes new looking. their prices in 1934 were... 79-cents for women's dresses, 65-cents for men's suits and 75-cents for men's O'Coats). Smith's College Cleaners had a phone number that was easy to remember, also... Phone 1!

If you are out and about this weekend, you might catch me at the Shawnee Horse Auction, in Shawnee, Oklahoma. Have a safe, warm, cozy weekend. If you can't get outside, then take a look at the treasures you can find in your own attics, basements and old family trunks.

~~ Linda "OaKie" ~~

Coming Soon...

Grandpa's Baseball Legacy Contiues



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Cure For Snake Bite - circa 1934
1934 Sanke Bite Cure


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Mailbag & Links....

Editor's Note... Keep Smilin'! Sen me your legacy goodies!


Thrieviel Suppe... "Have gotten one response already. Will share it with you -- 'My father-in-law loved the old German recipe you described. He called it Rievel Soup. 'Sup', of course means soup and is spelled suppe in German but pronounced almost 'zoop.' My mother-in-law made the soup and said its appeal had to be acquired (inherited). She said it was like creamed eggs with sort of 'dumplings' in it. Other German families in the Ingersoll area are familiar with this recipe, also.'

"I'd already heard from a couple of people that 'sup.' was 'suppe' or 'soup,' so that is confirmed. I'm ready to try making it myself, except that I'm trying to watch what I eat and control my weight after the Christmas holidays." -- Rod


Baseball Memories in Early 1900s... "In 1960 my grandfather (Benj Whittenberg) wrote a series of letters to my brother. What follows are excerpts...

August 22, 1960 -- 'When I was in school I became interested in baseball. There wasn't games like football or tennis so we played baseball. In 1903 and 1904 I played all over Indian Territory which is now Oklahoma. Then in 1905 there was our East Texas League formed at Paris, Texas and we beat
everybody in the league. Then the next year I played with Galveston in the (South) Texas League. Played there two years and met your Grandmother in Lampassas and we were married in 1907.'

Sept. 10, 1960 -- 'In 1903 and 1904 I played in the Indian Territory. One year I played at South McAlester. The next year at Muskogee. Things were really wild and woolly. There were lots of wild animals up there then and there were lots of wild Indians there too and if they were fortunate enough to get some fire water (that's what they called whiskey) they really were wild. They would drink and drink until they would go crazy and have to be put to bed or in jail 'till they sobered up. When I was playing ball up there one of the Boys was Bruce McAlester a big Chickasaw Indian. He was a good ball player and a very nice fellow. One other boy was Choc Kelly. He was a Choctaw Indian that was the fastest runner I ever saw. He would throw his head back and he could really fly. Indian Territory was part of the Louisiana purchase. Settled by the Creek Indians in 1827. Congress set aside this strip of land for the Indian Reservation. When I was playing ball one of the towns was Tulsa. Then it was so small, maybe 1500 people lived there. Now there are I guess 300,000. Best town in Oklahoma. In the ball park there was a producing oil well and oil then was worth about 50-cents a barrel, now its $5.00 per barrel.'

Nov. 3, 1960 -- 'You asked how we got about in the Indian Territory when I was playing up there. You know that was a long time ago, just a few years, some 56. Well, there wasn't too much transportation at that time. We rode the train. In the train was an engine, one passenger car and a bunch of freight car and coal cars which they called a mix train. Then when we went from one town to another to play we would have a stage coach. We would take off through the country and we would see lots of animals. We would see fox, some deers and occasionally we would see some bears. Of course we would see rabbits, squirrels and rattle snakes but we would never stop and didn't get to kill any. One time when I was playing ball up there in the morning before the game I went down in a coal and led mine, rode a hoist up and down and we have a big hunk of copper lead ore your Grandmother uses it for a door stop.'

J. Ben Whittenberg & early baseball glove"I asked my brother to take a picture of Granddad's glove. Instead he scanned it, front and back, and scanned the only picture we have of our grandfather in his playing days. He took the three pictures and combined them into this jpg. I am thrilled with the results. Hope you find it interesting as well.
Thank you for giving me such wonderful treats on this cold, gloomy Maine Winter day." -- Cathie

Are These Thrieviels????
"I went looking for thrieviels and these two popped up. I think the one on the right is the blue thrieviel and is much better in soup than the white one." :-)

Woody Guthrie... "Linda: Here's a good link to carry in the Legacy. I was hoping you could find some of your readers that might have known Woody or even some Guthrie folk that might still be in Oklahoma. Here is his Festival (Woody Guthrie Festival) ), coming up in July in Okemah."

"Saw this and wanted to make sure you read it. When Woody Guthrie was singing hillbilly songs on a little Los Angeles radio station in the late 1930s, he used to mail out a small mimeographed songbook to listeners who wanted the words to his songs, On the bottom of one page appeared the following: 'This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of
Copyright # 154085, for a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin it without our permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote it, that's all we wanted to do. W.G.' -- by Pete Seeger
'."

"Here's a neat page about Woody's hometown: Okemah, Oklahoma." -- Eric


Bohemian Recipe for Thrieviel Suppe... "Hi Linda, Reading the recipe, (of Rod Murrow), we also had a egg noodle soup, but we made the noodles in potato soup. We diced the potatoes (and a little chopped onion) then boiled them to soft stage in water and a bit of salt. Then poured in milk about half the amount of water that is still in potatoes and added a tablespoon of margarine. While the potatoes and water is boiling, we started the egg noodle mixture. Never measuring just by feel. But, approx. 1 cup flour, 1 egg. Beating the egg in the center of the flour, and just go to sink. Adding in water little bits at a time. Continue to stir and add water until the correct texture for drizzling into the now ready potato and milk base which should be slightly boiling. Drizzle by teaspoons and you have the best soup ever. We sometimes sprinkle on celery salt seasoning, just before eating. I believe this is a Bohemian Recipe! We would have it when we were ill. But, so good any time." -- Mk Huddleston

Fond Thanks... "Love reading your offerings. Please keep them coming."

Baseball Connections... "What a treat to come across your webpage! It seems that our grandfathers went head-to-head in the hot Texas summer of 1906. My grandfather, Whittenberg, was a pitcher for the Galveston Sand Crabs. I particularly enjoyed page 23 "Sand Crabs Administer The Worst Defeat to
Senators They Have Suffered This Season.
" Are these newspaper articles your grandfather had in a scrap book? How wonderful that they have survived one hundred years! Do you have more or do they end with July 1906? I ask because my grandfather was injured in a Game against Austin, August 22, 1906. He was hit in the head with a pitch which pretty much ended his baseball career. I would also love to see a larger copy of the Baseball Team shown on Page 1. Do you have other pictures? Thank you for this wonderful web site!"

In Plain Sight... "Where do you find the book "In plain sight?" Is it about the rhunes? thanks."

Editor's Note... I found a website for the lady who wrote the book, "In Plain Sight". At the end of her mainpage it has an address of where to write and order the book if she has anymore. This is the URL... "In Plain Sight" - Old World Records in America. If you are interested in ordering a copy of "In Plain Sight", send your letters to: Gloria Farley, c/o The Epigraphic Society, Box 717, Heavener, OK 74937


Remember When... "Hey Linda, let me first say that as usual, you're doing one fine job. Thanks. I copied your little ditty about Remember When and passed it along to my many racing cohorts and added just a couple more things. I told them to add to the list as most of us are pretty close to our age with some older and some younger. The response I have gotten is tremendous. It seems that we older folk never tire of remembering things from the past. I think that is one of the biggest reasons your e-zine is so popular. Again, thanks for all that you do. Yer old classmate."


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